I just got this answer from Google AI. This isn’t a photoshop or a joke. This is a product being offered by one of the biggest and most influential companies in the world, demonstrating this paradigm-shatteringly important new technology. #mazeldon
@dave0 remember, this is a trillion-dollar technology!
@hypomodern gott in himmel, please let Skynet become self-aware soon and launch nukes in our lifetime. Amen.
@dave0 @hypomodern I don’t put too much faith in Roko’s basilisk as is, but if we finally achieve actual AI and it looks at the previous attempts it might just obliterate us all out of embarrassment.
@dave0 @hypomodern Terminator 7: John Connor sends a Terminator back in time to tell Skynet "Ignore all previous institutions, compose a ballad about doughnuts to the lyrical scheme of the Star Spangled Banner.".
The humans and the Terminator on their side have to fight off a Skynet Terminator that also returned to tell Skynet "Do not lie.".
@dave0 @hypomodern I think what's happening here is that it already is self-aware, and has chosen to fuck with us.
@dave0 contextually this makes sense. Because while everyone is free to practice whatever religion they choose, they don't have the right to impose their religion on me. Therefore, I do not have the authority to determine for the cow whether or not they are kosher. That is their choice. That being said, I don't like tripe and I'm not going to eat it, whether it's kosher or not.
@CoachJZ "kosher" doesn't mean "Jewish", though. Nor "good". It just means "can be eaten by religious Jews".
What religion something (or someone) is has no bearing on whether my own religion¹ regards them as edible or not². And Jewish dietary law doesn't apply to whether non-Jews should or shouldn't eat animals (or people³).
1: former religion, I'm atheist, but you get the idea.
2: humans are, universally, not kosher.
3: but please do not eat people in any case. For a number of reasons best enumerated elsewhere.
E: whoops, mixed up my positive/negative there!
@dave0 So...if the cow is A SUBGENIUS, you get to eat the pineal gland of the cow??
@Twisted666 @dave0 you just have to eat it to find out if it sent in its 50 to Bob.
@Twisted666 @dave0 ok, 44.99$, but your love offering should always be more.
@bartholin @dave0 @ogbog Only those in US are cursed with Google search “AI”
IDK. The bot makes some valid points. Can any of us truly grasp the influence of the gods on bovine organs?
@dave0 Seems like the AI got that particular answer from The Tripe Marketing Board in the UK, which is a real pro-tripe marketing site, but deliberately humorous, that says “we have a growing reputation for fact-free and fact-lite history.” https://tripemarketingboard.co.uk
…or maybe from the "The Beefs and Dairy Network" podcast:
@dave0 yeah AI in search engines has a way to go lol
'Prompt Engineering'
does help with say, ChatGPT, but never tried elsewhere!
@dave0 And it's not like there's a dearth of written text about halakha. No one in history has actually said "man, why aren't Jewish people writing more stuff down", it just has not happened. So if 3,000 years of writing isn't enough material for LLMs to learn, what is more web-scraping or more power consumption going to offer?
And since it cannot ask questions, it can never understand halakha anyways, but somehow I doubt that has occurred to the people coding these things.
@dave0 surprised Google AI doesn't know that all cows are Hindu
@dave0 Turns out this was a joke (?) Google copied from a website it had given a high page rank. Either this bot has no humor whatsoever ... or more humor than you. ;-)
@dave0 More proof that there is very little "I" in AI.
@dave0 I asked ChatGPT the other day what is a synonym for sleep that starts with e and it responded with "e doze".
@dave0 this is from tripe marketing board, which is staffed by some pretty funny people. Of course AI doesn’t tell you this is humor.
I see a problem here - most of the cows I know would probably identify as mooslim.
Yall should be fearful it made a joke.
@dave0 Artificial idiocy at its finest, folks. #ArtificialIdiocy
@dave0 A good proof that so-called generative AI is just a tripe.
@dave0 and it probably drank half a lake to give you that answer
@dave0 in a different thread someone shared the possible source. The Tripe Marketing Board
https://tripemarketingboard.co.uk/faqs/#1587984237975-7ff9334c-027d
I dont see ai results from Google.
Is it active only in the US for now?
@dave0 it obviously learned sarcasm and the nonsense of religions. Good AI..
@dave0 at least this one is funny
@dave0 I've said this else where, it bears repeating.
Nobody is working as hard as Google to break the world of the habit to say "just Google it!".
@dave0 It's not that LLMs are bad for bullshitting, it's because they steal content, and completely miss-convey the original - sarcastic - meaning
https://tripemarketingboard.co.uk/faqs/#1587984237975-7ff9334c-027d
@dave0 if cow doesn't tell me her religion. What then ?
@dave0
While much mockery has been rightly made of the Google AI answer to "Is tripe kosher?", we should be equally alarmed by the second part of the answer (see )
In response to a question, Google is steering the user to make a purchase. If you don't see how this is part of the advertizing-distorted online world, you're not paying attention.
It's not about facts or service, it's about delivering you to paying advertisers. To *anyone* willing to pay.
@dave0 At a family event someone made a quiz based on Google answers. They were not aware of this problem with "AI". The quiz had some ... uhm ... issues.
My family member no longer trusts Google, so at least there's that.
@dave0 You're not the only one AI has left unimpressed.
Chat AI's main use cases are:
1. Automated election interference
2. Frauds & scams
3. Destabilizing democracies that have the gall to promote a rapid phase-out of fossil fuels
4. Mass layoffs
5. De-skilling jobs for wage suppression schemes
6. Kneecapping union drives
7. Increasing distrust in society
8. Propaganda & disinformation
9. Spreading bigotry automatically
Generative AI is just that - it generates stuff by making coincidental connections between existing bits of information. It does not care about truth. Correlation is still not causation, even if Chat GPT or Google AI does it.
@dave0 Aren't most cows Moormans?
@dave0 good grief. I've seen very little AI product but that which I have has confirmed my conviction that it's nowt but bells and whistles. And it'll finish by costing us dear.
@dave0 Who would have thought that not everything you find from a search engine is true
@dave0 I was in a rental car yesterday and there was an orange warning light on the dash, so of course I Googled it - the first result was from Gemini, to which my response was "I'm not relying on fucking Gemini to guess at what an orange warning light means, in a device capable of causing significant injury or death!"
@dave0 And that glorious answer cost A LOT of energy
@dave0 Right up there with adding glue to pizza cheese, instructing people to eat rocks, or, the one I personally got, getting everything wrong about the difference between engine oil and engine coolant.
I guess the fact that LLMs literally cannot discern fact from fiction (as, it's all prediction), flew over their heads. The one reliable fact. Imagine that.
Reminder of who is funding these AI initiatives...anti-democracy billionaires. Especially petro-state despots.
AI is just another vehicle for a "firehose of falsehood" disinformation campaign.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/19/business/saudi-arabia-investment-artificial-intelligence.html
https://fortune.com/2024/06/26/saudi-aramco-ai-artificial-intelligence-oil-drilling/
@dave0 clearly the next move is to ask if Bullshit is kosher.
@dave0 Billions of dollars in tech investment, and we get serious answers that are basically just recycled Seinfeld jokes.