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What a fucking trainwreck.

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Also I guess we now know the answer to the most asked question: "who will sit on the Iron Throne when the dust settles?" is "nobody, because there isn't an Iron Throne anymore"

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@hypomodern it’s pretty obvious that Jon, never the sharpest knife in the drawer, finally figured out Dany isn’t fit for the throne. Not sure how he takes it from her, although as a Targaryen he can ride dragons too.

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@twbrandt there isn't a throne to take! 😂 And how can he be trusted with the throne, when clearly the Targaryen madness can strike anyone!

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@hypomodern @twbrandt very lazy writing in my opinion. We have all these pieces doing a long story arc - Tyrion, Jaime, Dani etc etc. And they suddenly end up being quite untrue to how they were written up to this point.

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@Erich @hypomodern not sure if it’s lazy writing, or trying to fit 10 pounds of story into a 5 pound time slot. Dany’s arc was tending that way - even back in Essos she showed streaks of cruelty and megalomania. But this tendency was not given enough time to develop once she got to Westeros. Jon has always been an idealistic twit.

Tyrion and Jaime make no sense at this point though.

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@twbrandt @hypomodern I can definitely see Dani becoming this character eventually but you're right that the timing was just extremely rushed.

Jon and Sansa make sense, Jon has always been a Ned Jr.

I saw someone's hypothetical ending - Arya sneaks Sansa in to kill Cersei ahead of Dani. Dani realizes breaker of chains means the end of tyranny. Varys wins the Democratic election of Westeros. Jon gets to be envoy to the Wildlings.

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@Erich @twbrandt I don't buy Sansa killing Cersei in any timeline (except in self defense), but I did think Arya (or, perhaps, Jaime) was actually going to kill Cersei in an effort to avert the worst of the war crimes.

Instead, we got the most staid and predictable answers (it's just in the blood, silly!), and a show that had flirted with the idea of female empowerment after getting roasted for its misogyny has reverted to form.

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@hypomodern @Erich I’d put money on Arya killing Dany. It would not surprise me if Dany burns Jon.

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@twbrandt @Erich Ayra is perhaps the character I am most perplexed about in the entire series. I wouldn't be surprised at all if she flips back to deciding that she wants to be a hardened killer again and murders Dany.

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@twbrandt @hypomodern @Erich I'm picturing Dany burning Jon, only to have him emerge from the flames.

Aegon Targaryen, nth of his name, the Unburnt, the Prince Who Was Casually Mentioned Once in the Show...

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@george @twbrandt @Erich he of the correct chromosomes and not the blood curse and is therefore the true and honorable king of all Westeros.

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@hypomodern @george @twbrandt Been thinking more about the last ep. One big thing that bothered me was how Cersei behaved. She had no plan other than "we only need one good shot." That's way out of character.

The mention of the bells so many times had me thinking they would have Cersei ring the bells once the walls were breached, and have some kind of trap when Dani landed. Wildfire maybe after a false surrender?

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@hypomodern @george @twbrandt

there are many directions you can take from that trap. Dani loses her dragon and gets righteously angry? Sure, that makes sense after her advisers yet again let her down.

Cersei uses wildfire against her own people and Jaime finally breaks and kills her? That also makes a good bit more sense to me than the outcome we got.

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@Erich @george @twbrandt yep; there's lots of more interesting scenarios here than a rushed "welp, guess she's a mad targyarean after all!"

I don't quite understand why they're in such a rush to finish the show. It's not like they aren't making truckloads of money on it.

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@hypomodern @Erich @george I read somewhere that HBO offered to finance more episodes, but the show runners turned the network down. I don’t know why.

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@twbrandt @Erich @george got some other stuff they'd prefer to do, I guess! I'm certainly sympathetic to the desire to actually finish a long, epic story. But I think they've miscalculated this season. Last season was brisk and that felt nice.

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@Erich @twbrandt @hypomodern I think Jon saw last night what being Ned Jr. means in Westeros. Starks don't do well in the south because of their sense of honor.

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